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    Re: Model 19 Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut-Throat View Post
    I thought Khorns sounded 'constricted' in the Mid range, that's why I went to the Large Format Altec Horns and Drivers.

    Let me ask you a question, what type of crossovers are you running in the Khorns? - I have found the Type "A" to be the best with the Low Powered SET amps. I have 45's, 2A3s and 300b's. I use a modified type "A" with my Khorn/Altec System.
    Been awhile since I pulled them out of the corners, but IIRC, they are "AA"s.


    I heard a pair of 604-8G's today for the first time - very nice! I'm hoping to make them mine before the weekend is out....
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    Re: Model 19 Reviews

    Wow Tom. That's quire a menagerie and quite a recommendation for the 19.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Model 19 Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by Panomaniac View Post
    Wow Tom. That's quire a menagerie and quite a recommendation for the 19.

    Thanks!
    The elevator in the high rise must not of been big enough to get those (monster speakers) up to toms place lol

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    Re: Model 19 Reviews

    I have had a lot of Altec systems in my listening room.
    A7's set up several different ways. Duplexes with 411-8A subs, Santana's with the same subs, and now my tweaked M19's with 8184 subs. (braced cabs, top sealed to the bottom and mounted with 8 bolts instead of 4, and the ribs removed from the horns, horns damped and the bug screens removed)
    With attention to detail and careful setup, all of these setups have been awesome. Yes, even the Santana.

    I constructed my room to be quite dead and free of reflections. I believe the room is critical.

    That said, the Duplex setup was real magic. It wouldn't rock your socks off like the larger setups, but it had image and depth in spades. BTW...these are 904-8A with the hf section modded to be like a 604. No bug screens! And the manta horn in these is sweet.

    Next up is my present M19 setup. I listened last night for several hours and all I can say is wow after not having much opportunity to do so in the last year. The 8184's are crossed at 80hz with LR 24dB/oct crossovers, the M19's run full range. The subs add that extra dig on real low notes and the combo flat ass rocks.
    I sit in the near field with the 19's toe'ed in. I simply am imersed in the sound field. I don't hear speakers, I hear the band right in front of me. Image is superb! Info way to the left and right of the speakers. Even at very high levels, there is no fatigue.

    In the case of the 19's and duplexes, I love the adjustable x-overs. Mine are stock. The adj let's you tweak things just a bit to hit that magic sweet spot.

    I also believe the audio source is critical. I have a Rotel RCD1072 player which is quite good. This feeds a passive preamp (volume control) into my home brew 30w PP300B tube amps. Subs are powered by an old Kenwood KA9100 integrated that I bought new in 77.

    The only Khorns I ever heard has Altec components in them. That was so long ago, I only remember the bass. The Khorn takes a specific room.
    I also heard LaScalas in a less than ideal setup, hard room and they were very harsh.
    Maybe the Klipsch stuff can sound excellent, I don't know, I have never owned any. From what I gather, the components were not of the same quality as our Altecs.

    20, 30, 40, and even 50 years after they were produced, these drivers and systems are still great.

    BTW...I was listening to Steve Miller "Born to be Blue". A VERY well recorded red book CD.

    Ron

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    Re: Model 19 Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by theebadone View Post
    The elevator in the high rise must not of been big enough to get those (monster speakers) up to toms place lol

    Yeah, no more 19s but I got this in return.


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    And these. Stats are next best things to Altecs IMO.

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    Re: Model 19 Reviews

    I had stats and planars.

    I had Martin Logan Aerius, Aeons, and Ascents. Tried CLSII and Odyssey as well.

    I agree, stats are good but when you own one, it's like saying bye bye to tube amps! I tried Cary V12, MR 100(?) and ARC VT200 to name a few. Midrange sounds great, but bass becomes the Achilles heel. Mermaid cliche comes to mind. SS with planars is the way to go (I had Threshold, Plinius, Odyssey monos, ML 331, etc.). It helps the speed of the cone woofers a little bit, but still not on par, to the speed of the electrostats.

    Nearfield listening though, is a blast!

    Sad to say, I only have a few photos of my old system (Ascents, Circa 2003-2004). It was the same time I thought "Audiogon" was the only game in town.

    Is that Chicago South Side? I can't believe that South Side of Chicago looks like that now! Used to be just U of C, Soldier Field (if I am not mistaken?), and nothing (well there are somethings but probably not worth mentioning because I can't remember any at the moment). Oprah did very well huh! I use to live in Lakeshore Drive, then to Addison. Still (thank God!)own a couple of places out there (Along Barry, and Surf Street).

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